She told me that was the meanest thing anyone's ever said to her and I was thinking I gave her a compliment. We do what must be done. Are ENFJ good parents? I countinue to play in my playfield which is workplace. Please be courteous. The only way out is for him to reconnect with his extraverted thinking, usually in a dark corner away from prying eyes. Waste of time. Mostly not everyone hating ENTJs because of the superiority or that the ENTJ failed to live up the expectation. Don't be different. So - I dont fully buy into that aspect. My significant other is like a lightning rod for rationality - he gets utterly confused when asked to lead with the heart. Although they are not lazy, INTPs are not fond of routines. It sucks, women especially hate me. He controls. In normal circumstances, I will probably ignore the commands as an INTP. Gemini, ENTJmale. The details is always my downfall when it comes to anything, and I'm on my best when I have a person with an SF personality with me. I feel upon discovery of my personality type, I'm more comfortable with who I am. I don't quite understand perfectly why these two types are idealy matched, and I am looking for someone with insight on this. Why do INTPs like ENTJs? ENTJs belong to one of the two top-earning personality types are known for being bold and decisive. Because some games are cooperative, not competitive :) I don't play Go myself, but I hear masters of it try to just barely win, regardless of the skill level of their opponent, rather than just completely crushing the noobs. I'm middle-aged and still don't know how to "human.". This is so true. Astrology is a hobby for people who do not understand science. We win. I am also a student of esoteric subjects and an amateur astrologer. You use your fist to do the talking, so you beat people up if they don't agree with you? ENFJs are often drawn to INTPs' independence, creativity, and calm way of dealing with crisis. INTP The INTP does not like too much detail, preferring a broad-brush stroke approach. I will take the time to answer, even if really busy. As for inefficiencies thats my petpeeve lol. Jayne is a true ambivert, barely an INTJ, and an Enneagram One. But mostly what annoys me is that I have a need/tendency to explode outwards with my reasoning while they seem to want the most efficient and straightforward path from A to B. Be self sufficient because I do not have time to micromanage your work and activities. Female ENTJ quadruple Sagittarius, Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune. My husband is a Sagittarius ENTJ but does not drive a Mercedes. This question is for testing whether or not you are a human visitor and to prevent automated spam submissions. The main problem people have with it is that you can take it one time and get a different answer than the next time, but people's presonalities change, and if you put in same/similar answers you're going to get the same type. Now I am reconnecting with myself and honestly, I could give two **** about how they perceive me or getting people to "like" me. They are introverts, thinkers, and perceivers instead of extroverts, feelers, or judgers. I think and emote like a man thanks to my personality type, but I guess the world isnt okay with that. But who cares. INTPs are emotional, hesitant, relaxed, problem-focused, and dependent. How inconvenient for everyone around them! I originally posted this in another thread, but its topic was related to this one at the start and is starting to move closer. I expect everyone to acknowledge mistakes- I hold myself to that same standard. I'm in accord with you, but not necessarily in accord with the Bully Commander (ENTJ). INTPs like that ENTJs also share a strong belief in the importance of logical reasoning. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Im a woman ENTJ and an Aries. Since you cannot meet their needs it turns into hate. ", "I want freedom for the full expression of my personality.". Apr 8, 2010. You're know-it-alls and you believe your limited experience entitles you to opine on just about anything. I knew that I deserve special kind of woman. I like the assertiveness and tough-luck attitude of many Te-dominants but theoretical conversations with them have to do with practical purposes for them. Therefore, you habor much bitterness and you tend to lash out against anything that conflicts with your idealized image and/or evokes egodystonic dissonance. Here are the 10 "unforgivable sins" of ENTJs . with a little commentary as to why they're not the heartless, bossy, puppy kickers they're made out to be. Yeeha! However, there are some differences between these two personality types: INTPs have a more substantial interest in theoretical subjects, while ENTJs have a more action-oriented mind. I don't see how you equate planning with commanding. Dear women, stop finding reasons as to why you are the way you are that must be the reason you are drawn to ENTJs. You're extremely earthly, vulgar, coarse and simple/close-minded. Because their TE is not regarded as much as the ENTJ supreme boss ego. I don't get it. I am highly educated in a highly tech icalprofession. As an ENTJ, I feel like you stated whatI wish everyone knew about me. Their arrogance and overconfidence are things INTPs struggle to accept. Consedring that we have the biggest balls ever, emotions and charm is left for the rest of the population. 3-saying sorry has never been a problem to me, especially in accidental situations or if im really wrong, but if you don't deserve it you will never hear it from me. Wanna know why I suppress my feelings? An ENTJ might not mean to come across as bossy and sharp, it's just so hard to pull those punches. I am a sagittarius-ENTJ and have the same issues, it is annoying when femalegetjealous for no reasonand so workingfor myself feels great, for that part so far, I didn't know I was an ENTJ before but I have always wondered why my female bosses didn't like me much, despite I get alone well with everyone. So you're better than other people? Why cant we have more people in this world who arent afraid of honesty and welcome challenges. INTPs are not lazy they just have a different way of prioritizing tasks. At the moment, I feel like I'm driving a car with a drawn handbrake. 6- true but I've learnt through the hard way sometimes I have to hold back especially on my thoughts. I guess the INTJs I've met are somewhat emotionally starved and end up self-absorbed from it. ENTJs are very sensitive to power status andappraisal to theirachievements, (as well as mistakes and incompetence),things that signal admirationand approval of (or the dismissal by) others. Love language simply refers to how you prefer to receive and give love. 8- I feel the exact same way about that as well, when I get irritated or frustrated people regard it as anger. I share my feelings a lot, because it makes me look more friendly, and it doesno harm to me. There are certain things about them that justrub people up the wrong way. 1. Worst case scenario? The primary difference between these two personality types is their focus. "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will loose both." But how does this lend itself to ENTJ personalities hating INTP personality types? They are whiners. I have struggled with not fitting in with anyone since I was 5. It's clear that I shouldn't work for someone else. I am a man with an incredible drive, and I have left a wake of pitiful souls behind, but I always try to find my wingman - usually an introvert. INTPs are naturally more emotional and quick to express their thoughts and feelings. INTP personality types are often caught-up in daydreams. I say this humbly and by thinking, not feeling my emotions. Idlove to resolve this dilemma and would appreciate feedback. If you are looking for an exciting partnership with an insatiable craving for intimacy, ENTJs are all that and much more. 9- Not sure if I'm like that, but i don't like when people aren't straightforward and are handling this ineffectively. If you don't get with the program, you'll be working a dead-end job for the remainder of your pathetic life.' They dont have to carefully package their words for fear of hurting someone. So, I would add not having a worthwhile mission would be a sin for an ENTJ. So - one of the 1% of females here who is an ENTJ-T and I'm not sure if maybe gender or indivuduality (or a combo of both) has a role to play in what I'm about to say or what BUT I do find fault with some of these observations: 1. As an ENTJ, Libra, 8w7 female it's rough. Tried to blend with the girls, failed miserably. JavaScript is disabled. I am a gemini (saggi moon) ENTJ. All tools were created by people and therefore subject to innacuracy. I have read that they are ideal for each other. because one's extroverted thinking and the other is introverted thinking. special kind of life. But if the concerns are unjustified or it would be faster to patch it or the risk is so low that it's a "cross that bridge when we come to it" situation, ENTJ will probably stay the course. ENTJs are very protective of their emotions and have a more extroverted approach. INTPs also enjoy debunking and providing greater perspective on some of the ENTJs megalomanic ideas and projects. And thats embarassing as hell to me as an INFP. Weve compiled a brief list of reasons that may explain why ENTJs often hate INTP personality types. Are you curious to know more about how these two personality types match together? I don't want a controlling partner. We need more entjs. Accusing me as rude when I raised my voice because you are still blind of the fact?! With this in mind, I take actions that can be modified as needed. But I discovered that it might affect my health and decesion making and learned how to control it. Otherwise I will take the lead. Ive always been incredibly organized and I do NOT need a wing-man or woman to handle the "unimportant stuff" (because that IS important). For me, this would make this type an exception amongst other types that are similar in that aspect, as in this is the only type of the judgers I enjoy. INTP like INFJs because they help them relate with people better. Im a virgo ENTJ female and I also have to change my attitude with my friend but I still look rude and scary to them -_- and because of getting so much criticism from people im starting to become little introverted which i dont want to be. I do think I am nice and personable, but my blind spot is not nice and personable enough for others. Theyre the trendsetters and trendspotters, the ones who get the party started and the crowd hyped. I'm a ENTJ boy doing a project about my project and I have never knew about my personality type was one of the rarest because I always thought that my personality is probably common. These things you say do descibe YOUR experience and yours alone. Male ENTJ here. Snakes are deaf but can feel vibrations. We all know males can be a little different in how they approach details and their feelings than females. As INTJ female divorcing an XNTP after 20+ years, of all types I've dated this year, I'vedecided I may filter my futuredating pool for ENTJ-only as f**k - thank you - the TRUTH! Steve has worked with diverse populations and in variety of a settings, from community clinics to SF General Hospital. you summarised all my life with anxiety. no, none of us can relate [] I'm quite interested and attracted to the idea of an ENTJ. ? Again. SOPHIA. Problem is he doesnt communicate his feelings at all. We make magic in the bedroom also. Both INTPs and ENTJs constantly pursue truth and have high ambitions. They can quickly become distracted when they are inspired to pursue other interests. This is a great question and I look forward to reading the answers. And ofcourse generalize it to all life matters. Not because I want that role but because groups need leadership, even if it ends up being temporary. The INTP is excellent at reminding ENTJs of their biases and potential holes in their ideas. They may often pursue creative careers where they allow themselves the freedom of expression. You're basically ESTJs in disguise; you think you're macro-managing something, but you're trivial, you suffer from OCD, and you're just big, bloated fish in a small pond. As an ENTJ I do recognize a lot of patterns of your experience with a similar personality type, but when do we ever learn to not generalize the whole population when one or two does something (wrong)? I think you should think WHY THE PEOPLE HATE YOU accurately in the first place before accusing them as whiny and jealous of you. INFJs help INTPs make and keep new friends and allies. INTPs and ENTJs both tend to be private about their emotions and it can take a long time for them to open up. No they don't have to be mean but it my example is more exciting in this way. The "women especially hate me" resonates with me. The Awkward ENTJ. ENTJs may despise being told to relax and can often become agitated with individuals that consider them to be too serious.. Anyways, people who think Astrology is useful or even accurate bother me to the core. A lot of the games social groups play are like that. I dont share my feeling but people find it easy to read my face and guess how I am feeling. And, at 53% Introverted, 47% Extraverted, my own personality is running dangerously close to the ENTJ cliff edge. But it's made me more self aware of who I am. Even Carl G. Jung, whose work wound up being extrapolated into MBTI typology, believed there was something to astrology and spent time exploring it. Who cares what people think. Their open-mindedness, intuition, and constant state of analysis will lead them to build a good foundation of trust in their partner if that partner is worthy of trust. We seem to be read as cold or indifferent but I don't feel that way at all. INTPs can find the ENTJs stubbornness difficult in romantic relationships. Therefore quality of conversation is leaps and bounds above most types with great brevity. They are very dominant in bed. Recently told a peripheral friend my cold-hearted shoulder is a poor choice for commiserating;tears have no power over me and I don't feel sorry for people whomarinate in their problems, especially when they're very clever and more than capable of doing something about it. INTP replies: Lets stay in, forget the parents, have sex and order pizza! i've got an entire manual of how to handle most situations. Ah good then it is not me! It is sexist, To assume was every woman wants. Of course, dont take it so seriously man. While everyone else is agonizing over a decision, an ENTJ will have spotted the smart way to get things done, mapped out an action plan, and gathered all the resources she needs to accomplish her mission. When INTPs crush on someone, they may try to place themselves strategically in the right place for something to happen. #10 It wouldn't be productive to have too many leader types. Really ENTJs?! Read More Do ISTPs Like To Argue?Continue. The world is too small. I haver never ever cared how ugly or raw the truth is, just share the truth as that's all we have as a tool from which to make the next step. Repetative and predicatable. They are more logical and enjoy reasoning and organization. What they really want to dois smash through a problem, hand over the implementation, and move on to the next big idea. This makes them quick to argue when the other person does not share the same viewpoint or easily offends the ISTP. (astrostyle.com), This is funny, firesigns and ENTJ. Works better with a geocentric model, but oh well. Ive become increasingly angrier over the years. They can quickly become annoyed when they are reliant on other individuals. People are shallowy and boring. And he had wasted a great deal of my effort to correct the wrong judgment he had. if taking relationship with one, the INTJ is the one that hurt the most. Well, an ENTJ would complete me as an INTP. Their natural instinct to lead will be apparent in this arena as well as other areas of life, and they will lead their partner on creative lovemaking adventures, where the focus is on mutual learning and affection sharing. I tend to be the detail keeper for my ESFJ boyfriend who is usually too busy trying to help everyone else around him he cant remember to take care of himself lol. ESTJs, INTJs, ENFPs, INFJs, and INFPs, can also be attracted to an INTP, depending on the person and their preferences. No exceptions. I also had some major learning issues if not for father's barbaric upbringing I probably would not have developed "survival"techniques. Often, when an INTP . I'm genuinely sorry to hear you had a bad experience with a ENTJ. INTPs also admire ENTJ's insight and the ability to actually do something about their shared ideas. If you're INTP, what traits do you like about ENTJ? Only good in a work/project when they can teaming up. Since you brought up the topic of common mistypes, many ESTJ commonly believe they are ENTJ as well. I don't think I have seen other Cancers on here as ENTJs. Cancer is one of the Cardinal signs check out this description that does sound pretty ENTJish :), Cardinal Signs Yep, everything was a flaw and fakery until I reconnected with my inner child. I'm also a capicorn and I give really good advice to my friends who aren't in a good mood. Because of their inborn personality traits, ENTJs are often thought of as leaders. Usually, I am accused of being arrogant and overbearing. I agree with several points, howeverthese miss the mark: #3 I absolutely admit my mistakes and will offer apologies- Just don't expect me to apologize when I'm not wrong. The go-getter nature of ENTjs and their ability to take the lead and do the most talking in public situations fit really well with INTPs more reserved nature. INTPs find ENTJs fun and very good people to ask for a second opinion. I am very introverted, she is as far at other extreme. But to be honest when I knew who I am I laghed. I'm an ENTJ-A scorpio and feel misunderstood by everyone around me. The INFJ is dominantly a Feeler and they can . An ENTJ is just Carolyn Burnham at American Beauty, shouting, 'This is a $4,000 sofa, upholstered in Italian silk. Mainstream psychology says MBTI is pseudoscience, but I've found it useful, mainly because it gives a way of understanding different people as "differently healthy." I havent lost yet. It's mostly women, but some men get into it as well. Their efficiency. You commented that almost 4 years ago! I also know that just by saying that, I'm technically, "Too full of myself" and that I should lose my big head. But they hate me and woman never liked me growing up and still don't. Not sure which one it is, but to be honest it could be either or. Neither type has a lot of patience for doing the same thing day in and day out. LOL! 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